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A Response to the Video:
Seventh-day Adventism, the Spirit Behind the Church
by Bob Pickle
Answers to Questions Raised by:
Mark Martin, Sydney Cleveland
Dale Ratzlaff, The White Lie
. . . and Others
Discern Fact from Fiction
Her Predictions and Views
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#44 &
#45: "Despite the unbiblical nature of her visions, her followers
continue to accept her as God's
messenger and her writings as inspired as the Bible."—Narrator. |
#44: Her visions are unbiblical. The video
is begging the question here. So far not one aspect of her visions has been proven to be
unbiblical. Visited by angels? Transported to heaven? So were the Bible writers.
One aspect of her visions that the video does not mention at all is the physical
phenomena that occurred during them. Consider what Daniel
wrote regarding a vision he had: "For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my
lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no
strength in me, neither is there breath left in me" (Dan. 10:17). Daniel while in vision did
not breathe. Likewise, Mrs. White while in vision did
not breathe. These visions would last from fifteen minutes to three hours. She was examined
by physicians on several occasions while in vision,
and their opinion was that she was not breathing. Consider this eyewitness account:
The first is from M. G. Kellogg, M. D., who refers to the first vision given in
Michigan, May 29, 1853, at a meeting held in the barn of Wm.
Dawson, in Tyrone, Livingston Co. He says:—
"Sister White was in vision about twenty minutes or half an
hour. . . . Brother White arose and [p. 40] informed the audience that his wife
was in vision.
After stating the manner of her visions, and that she did not breathe while in vision, he
invited any one who wished to do so to come forward and
examine her. Dr. Drummond, a physician, who was also a first-day Adventist preacher, who
[before he saw her in vision] had declared her visions
to be of mesmeric origin, and that he could give her a vision, stepped forward, and after a
thorough examination, turned very pale, and remarked,
'She doesn't breathe!'
"I am quite certain that she did not breathe at that time while in
vision, nor in any of several others which she had when I was present. The
coming out of vision was as marked as her going into it. The first indication we had that the
vision was ended, was in her again beginning to breathe.
She drew her first breath deep, long, and full, in a manner showing that her lungs had been
entirely empty of air. After drawing the first breath,
several minutes passed before she drew the second, which filled the lungs precisely as did
the first: then a pause of two minutes, and a third
inhalation, after which the breathing became natural." Signed, "M. G. Kellogg, M. D.,
Battle Creek, Mich., Dec. 28, 1890."—General Conference
Daily Bulletin, Jan. 31, Feb. 1, 1893, pp. 59, 60.
While this aspect of her visions was very biblical, it must be pointed out that such
phenomena do not prove that a prophet or vision is from
God. They merely prove the supernatural character of those visions. The Bible tests of a
prophet must then be applied to determine whether that
supernatural source is God or Satan. This is a vital point, for Revelation 16:14 explicitly tells
us that the devil can work miracles, and will work
many at the end of time.
#45: Adventists claim her writings are as inspired as the Bible.
The irrelevancy of this charge was already pointed out under
#23.
Under "Point 26" the documentation package has an article from the
December 23, 1982, issue of the Review to prove that Adventists
believe that "her writings are as inspired as the Bible." But the article's ten affirmations and
ten denials actually negate what the video is trying
to prove:
Affirmations
- We believe that Scripture is the divinely revealed Word of God
and is inspired by the Holy Spirit.
- We believe that the canon of Scripture is composed only of the
66 books of the Old and New Testaments.
- We believe that Scripture is the foundation of faith and the final
authority in all matters of doctrine and practice.
- We believe that Scripture is the Word of God in human language.
- We believe that Scripture teaches that the gift of prophecy will
be manifest in the Christian church after New Testament times.
- We believe that the ministry and writings of Ellen White were
a manifestation of the gift of prophecy.
- We believe that Ellen White was inspired by the Holy Spirit and
that her writings, the product of that inspiration, are applicable
and authoritative especially to Seventh-day Adventists.
- We believe that the purposes of the Ellen White writings include
guidance in understanding the teaching of Scripture and application
of these teachings, with prophetic urgency, to the spiritual life.
- We believe that the acceptance of the prophetic gift of Ellen
White is important to the nurture and unity of the Seventh-day
Adventist Church.
- We believe that Ellen White's use of literary sources and assistants
finds parallels in some of the writings of the Bible.
Denials
- We do not believe that the quality or degree of inspiration in
the writings of Ellen White is different from that of Scripture.
- We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are an addition
to the canon of Sacred Scripture.
- We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White function as
the foundation and final authority of Christian faith as does
Scripture.
- We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White may be used
as the basis of doctrine.
- We do not believe that the study of the writings of Ellen White
may be used to replace the study of Scripture.
- We do not believe that Scripture can be understood only through
the writings of Ellen White.
- We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White exhaust the
meaning of Scripture.
- We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are essential
for the proclamation of the truths of Scripture to society at
large.
- We do not believe that the writings of Ellen White are the product
of mere Christian piety.
- We do not believe that Ellen White's use of literary sources
and assistants negates the inspiration of her writings.
Pretty clear, isn't it? The contributors to the material in
the video really ought to read this part of the documentation package. It
would
answer a lot of their questions.
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