A Response to the Video:
Seventh-day Adventism, the Spirit Behind the Church
by Bob Pickle
Answers to Questions Raised by:
Mark Martin, Sydney Cleveland
Dale Ratzlaff, The White Lie
. . . and Others
Discern Fact from Fiction
The Sabbath of the Fourth Commandment
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#170, #171,
#172, #173, & #174: "Why the change now nine years later? Had they not been in fact
Sabbath
breakers and not Sabbath keepers for the first nine years of the practice? It required another
vision by Ellen
White in which she promised to question the angel and get an explanation to cause the
controversy to die
down. 'I inquired why it had been thus, that at this late day we [p. 114] must change the time of
commencing the
Sabbath. Said the angel, "Ye shall understand, but not yet, not yet..." ' Spiritual Gifts
vol. 4[b] p. 3-4. Mrs.
White died without ever giving the promised explanation from God."—Mark
Martin. |
#170: It required another vision. If it required another
vision, why does Mr. Martin then proceed to quote from the same vision of
November 20, 1855? Mr. Martin quotes here from pages 3 and 4. The immediately
preceding page, page 2, says: "November 20, 1855, while
in prayer, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly and powerfully came upon me, and I was taken off
in vision." That makes this vision the same as the
one referred to by the narrator under #165-#167, meaning that there was no other
vision.
#171: She promised in her vision to question the angel and get an
explanation. Will the reader please notice what Mr. Martin
quoted? She made no such promise in the vision. Rather, the angel
promised that an explanation would come later.
#172: The angel said, "Not yet, not yet." Let's quote just
a little more of this very passage. The second sentence after where Mr.
Martin stopped says: "I saw that it was in the minds of some that the Lord had shown that
the Sabbath commenced at six o'clock, when I had
only seen that it commenced at 'even,' and it was inferred that even was at six."
If Mr. Martin had only read two more sentences, his questions would have been totally
answered.
This quotation from Spiritual Gifts appears under "Point 85" in the
documentation package. The last five lines of the paragraph are
strangely missing. The last words before the cut-off lines are, "I saw that it was in the," the
first seven words from the above sentence.
You might think this is evidence of dishonesty, and it does look quite incriminating. It
appears that the compiler was trying to hide the truth
from the reader. But actually, it could be just simple human error.
The documentation package provides 77 different extracts from the
CD-ROM of Mrs. White's writings, 55 of which contain material
that she really wrote. The compiler was using the Windows version of the software which
provides two ways of printing out a desired selection.
One can either print out the whole paragraph, or the current window being viewed, a default
of 27 lines.
16 extracts went beyond a single window, and were included in their entirety in the
documentation package. 4 others, including the one
under discussion, were cut off at the end of the first window, omitting between 2 and 7 lines
of material. Of these 4, only this one's missing lines
represent context vital to the discussion.
So it is possible that the compiler neglected to read the last five lines and had the
"window" "print range" setting checked. Yet even if this
was a simple oversight, it really is inexcusable. Whenever one attacks something as sacred as
someone's religious faith, it is wise to be certain
of the facts first. And when ascertaining facts means reading only two more sentences or five
more lines, finishing the paragraph becomes a
Christian duty.
#173: She died without ever giving the promised
explanation. The careful reader will note that the angel never said who would
give the promised explanation. Mr. Martin thinks it had to be Mrs. White, but that's not
what the passage said.
#174: The promised explanation was never given.
Actually, the promised explanation appeared in Smith's book which the narrator
quoted from (see #167):
"2. Elder J.B., who was the first to teach the Sabbath in its importance, and faithfully
labor to bring out a people from among the Adventists to
observe it, was very decided upon the question, and respect for his years, and his godly life,
might have been among the reasons why this point was
not sooner investigated as thoroughly as some other points."—p. 89.
Seventh-day Adventists had relied on someone's opinion instead of searching out what
the Bible actually taught on the matter. For this reason,
they had to make a change after not quite keeping the Sabbath correctly for nine years.
This explanation was given publicly in the Review and Herald in
1868 (vol. 31 no. 11), and then reprinted in Smith's book of that year.
This was a total of 47 years before Mrs. White's death.
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